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Hyper Black Hole Question[edit source]

Uh, how far does a Black Hole need to travel in order to be considered a Hyper-Black Hole? Just asking, as I just checked the primary GRE Black Hole, (located in Beta-Sentinel-1), and it threw me out over 500,000 lightyears away from where I started. So, just wanted to make sure that, if I decide to log this Black Hole into the chart, I know what to classify it as. Rockatoa, Brickticks (talk) 22:03, 31 May 2019 (UTC) out!

That is a normal distance. It most likely warped you to the other side of the galactic disk. The difference between black holes and hyper black holes is the distance travelled towards the center (and kinda in overall). In theory the most extreme teleport of a normal black hole is 1.630.000 lightyears (radius times two minus 7-8k centre travel). If your black hole bridges more than 25.000 lightyears towards the centre or 1.63 million across, I think it is fair game. Thamalandis (talk) 00:58, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Alright, got it, good, now I know what to classify it as! Brickticks (talk) 14:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Research Notes[edit source]

Alpha = 06D
Alpha Minoris = 03D
Beta = 017
Gamma = 06D
Delta = 018
Delta Minoris = 05D + 022

  • Debunked!

Height IDs:
7C = 1 = 6D
7D = 2 = 22, 6F
7E = 3 = 3D, 5D, 6D
7F = 1 = 18
81 = 1 = 17


  • All Black Holes lead to a roughly neutral height.
  • The start region on the galaxy map is unimportant for being put above or below the plane... or anywhere aside of "distance" which is finnicky for hyper black holes.
  • While not perfect, the statistical extreme of 6F vs 3D is significant enough to declare the target RANDOM by plausability. This time both numbers changed and a third target option is "unnecessary" in logic.


  • Where is 80... is something above 81 or below 7C?
  • Why does it focus on the lower plane (7F with 80 excluded as center height).
  • Maximum range (7C-81?) of height targets?

Needs more data!

Fixed target locations (NEXT)[edit source]

The LITTLE difference of 17 to 18 is nearly unimportant. Both Alpha And Gamma are on the LEFT side of the galaxy. Beta and Delta on the RIGHT side. Just like Atlas and Black Hole are always the same system ID, there might be system behind which system is chosen by Black Hole to connect to. I like the Ship/Spaceship Glyph motif.Thamalandis (talk) 22:38, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I did one from the lower plane, put me right on the neutral plane. If all blackholes lead to the neutral plane that would be an interesting highway as all roads lead from the upper and lower rim to the center. Also no blackhole would ever lead topside then. For one that prevents accidental throws to the 50k ly rim topside and below. So I can understand it. It however poses the question... if all black holes lead to the center plate +/- 4-5 glyphs, then a LOT of black holes target a lot of systems in those regions. Which means it can NOT be a fixed choice... only one of the two can be right. Newest candidate is 03D by the way. Still two of three numbers the same. I need a goal that is COMPLETELY out of the norm.Thamalandis (talk) 03:54, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Our newest number is..... 5D. Still a D number. Great, the game still uses a pattern. And it still ports to the neutral plane. Let's see, if top and down port to the same area and ALL regions above are 8 and all below are 8. Then 8 addresses along the system ID each need to be Black Hole Targets... so 16. Guess we will find all 16 very fast... or 8. Depending if it uses a double system of... actually I should just compare the height IDs... wait for it.Thamalandis (talk) 05:16, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

900k light years?![edit source]

Article mentions black holes sends you to a very distant system (usually 900k light years away). The distance to the center when the player starts the game is about 170k light years. I'm pretty sure this person meant 900 light years, not 900 thousand. I changed it to 900~in the mean time. Bennemann (talk) 05:16, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this distance is in linear value(the black hole jump the same way we do in the game, by jumping onto multiple star systems) and not directly toward the centre of the galaxy. I had an Anomaly Black Hole of 495 625 Light-years Feel free to use the image. --Loloppe (talk) 06:09, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

170k light years? my ass[edit source]

With the 3 warp drives packed together i can jump 1640 ly, but, when i go towards the center of the galaxy, i make a linear jump of 1640 ly, BUT, the distance to the center only reduces around 200-400 ly (i can imagine a small deviation towards the center, but, with the bright light of the center of my screen, 1200-800ly could be the reduction per jump, not only 200-400), so, a chain of 5 jumps+bh = 3000 ly and a broken tech piece (probably the tau warp).

I made a trip of my camera to the center, and selected various star systems arround the center, and, i am, right now, at 60k ly, and the linear distance to these star systems are 200k-300k ly... Measured in parsecs perhaps?

I also noticed this, there seems to be a discrepancy between distance "travelling to a system between you and the center", and distance "from the center"
--TheNinth (talk) 21:07, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Error![edit source]

The max distance jump is 1600 but not in straigt line. If we subtract the distance to the center of the initial system to the final system the center distance has been reduced only about 400 years

Admin Response[edit source]

I believe the examples given here best express the idea that the distance traveled via a black hole varies tremendously, just like many other things in a procedurallly generated universe. It is certainly possible that if you were to enter the same black hole more than once, you would end up in a different location (and hence distance) each time you exit. The ship you are using, the upgrades installed, even the amount of cargo may cause variations in where you are spit out at the end.

To use a familiar example - if you take a garden hose, turn it on full blast, then hold it five or six feet from the nozzle end, it will jump and thrash and spout water in many places. If you consider the randomness of water from a relatively low-pressure hose, think of what the unimaginable power of a black hole might generate on the other end. Ddfairchild (talk) 04:37, 25 August 2016 (UTC)