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COMPLETE - Request to change EPM's location on the starmap 8/17/19[edit source]

Sorry to have to bother you again so soon. But the capital of the EPM has changed a considerable distance, the system, planet and coords have already been updated on the Embassy page. For ease of access the new coords:

0801:0086:07E2:007A

In case we need to document 5 in total new systems in the region just like when we started off, I'll get on it as soon as I get confirmation. I hope you'll be able to make the edit without having been too inconvenienced.

Thanks in advance! Blek456 (talk) 08:56, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Blek456, I have adjusted the maps accordingly. To my knowledge, it suffices in such a case to document the capital system and the capital planet in the new region. The other old 4 star systems continue to count. Optionally, of course, it would be desirable for the new region to be documented as well. --Artifexity (talk) 10:27, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! The new region will be documented, but I wanted to know if I should it do immediately or at a slower pace. Blek456 (talk) 15:42, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

COMPLETE - Hubs & more 8/14/19[edit source]

As said by Artifexity and many other users, Hubs are a controversial topic. And here I am, part of that now. I was told that 15 users in a Census must have a Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, or Gamepedia account to be a Hub. So that is why I had to wait for 25 Citizens, because many of the citizens did not have those accounts. However, some Hubs do not follow this and there are other issues as well with many of them:

  • Amino Hub
    • Census
      • Census is outdated (Atlas Rises)
      • Only 12 members actually have the accounts I mentioned
      • Duplicate users
    • Star systems are from Pathfinder
  • Free Delta Initiative
    • Actually an Alliance, not a Hub
    • The Census has less members than 15
    • Only 2 documented systems
  • Alliance of Galactic Travellers This one is a little more complex:
    • The Census includes members from Louyen, CELAB Galactic Industries, etc
      • These members should not be counted toward the AGT hub in Gamma
    • All the members of the Facebook are considered citizens? What if we made all of the people in our discord citizens?
    • It still might be a hub, there is just no way of knowing

I do not mean to harm any of these civilizations: I am trying to make the wiki more accurate

In addition, civilizations without 5 documented systems or inactive since 2 updates ago (Abyss in this case) should be removed.

Thanks ~Moon cookies1 (talk) 01:54, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello Moon cookies1, first I have to clarify something. We have to distinguish between the page of the civilized space and the map. The map serves primarily the general public, beyond Federation and Wiki. That's why there are also Civilizations and Hubs on the map that are not or hardly represented in the wiki.
Through my role as moderator in the Federation, I am constantly receiving personal messages about new Civilizations or changes in existing ones. Therefore I have information to make the map as balanced as possible for all.
History, activities and census are equally included in the evaluation of a hub on the map. I mentioned examples in response to my profile. If there are no previous stories or activities that indicate a Hub, I would point out the 15 verifiable members. That's what happened with your Civilization.
The decision of 15 verifiable members on the wiki was a decision by the Federation to be recognized as a Hub. This was at a time when membership of the Federation was not determined by the documentation of star systems, but by the number of members. https://www.reddit.com/r/NMS_Federation/comments/981911/debriefing_and_result_of_the_vote_on_the/
The next 3 months will continue to see Federation members on the map who may still be from NEXT. That's the effect of a Federation decision: https://www.reddit.com/r/NMS_Federation/comments/bowaz1/fsa_supplement_42/
Under the heading "Under construction" are all Civilizations which are either new and/or do not meet the minimum requirements for Civilization recognition. As well as Civilizations or Hubs, which are not represented in the wiki accordingly. I will present this more clearly in the map after your request in the future.
The map is subject to constant adaptation. Especially after an update. It's going to change a lot. Thank you for your research. --Artifexity (talk) 12:12, 15 August 2019 (UTC)